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Пост от 15 числа.

Что ж вы твАрите, бруклинцы?!


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Порадовало 3 момента ...
1.Способность комитета из сапожников и портных ориентироваться в разбирательстве убийств ...
2.Недоверие органам власти ...
3.Не сообщение (своевременное) о преступлении в госорганы ...


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Омерзительное чувство вызывает... Спасибо, Сну! А то Настырного-то у нас нет,
а следить - что там у него появляется - не всегда успеешь.

НИЧЕГО ОБЩЕГО с ними (осбэшниками) иметь - и в страшном сне не хочется!
Но ЗНАТЬ ТАКОЕ полезно - чтобы подальше держаться...и хороших людей уберегать!
(Народ, то есть, предупреждать по мере возможности.)

А с властями - доиграются; хитрят-хитрят, но все до поры до времени.
Да и не хитрость это уже, а преступление. Изуверы, одним словом.

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письмо разбито на темы по пунктам:

- "Упал и отжался, баран!". С объяснениями. (1 - 5)
- Курс юного Штирлица (5 - 12)
- Убийство или другие мелкие хулиганства среди овец. Надо ли вызывать полицию? (13-17)
- Диверсанты в собраниях. Уроки самообороны. (18-19)
- Самоубийства или попытки суицида в стаде. Советы адвоката-психиатра. (20-21)
- Наезды на собрание. Приёмы против лома. (22)
- Секрет семейного счастья: как отсудить ребёнка у несвидетеля. (23-25)
- Труп на капоте: какой трактат лучше предложить подъехавшим сотрудникам ДПС. (26)
- "Выучить, как "Отче наш"!" Юридическая хрень для запоминания. (27-35)


:lol: ... =D>

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В принципе, ожидаемо. Но действительно противно.
Если мне память не изменяет (поправьте, если изменяет), то такое абсурдное поведение обусловлено толкованием слов Христа, мол, что свяжете на земле и т.д. применительно к себе, плюс слова Павла, мол, мы и ангелов судить будем. Вот и играет в них супер эго. Только к старейшинам СИ это никак не относится. Они же не причастны телу Христа. От причастия сознательно отказываются.И ангелов им не судить. Самозванцы.

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а можно залить письмо еще где-нибудь? не могу перейти по ссылке... :(

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Как в переводчик то отправить, он копировать в PDF не хочет, помогите как это дело прочитать?
Ну очень хочется, плизззззззззззз

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Как в переводчик то отправить, он копировать в PDF не хочет, помогите как это дело прочитать?
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ChristianCongregationofJehovah’sWitnesses2821Route22,Patterson,NY12563-2237Phone:(845)306-11004/9/12-E
April 9, 2012
TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS
Re: Procedures when legal issues are involved
Table of Contents
Confidentiality .................................................................... Pars. 5-12
Crimes and criminal investigations .................................. Pars. 13-17
Disruptive individuals at congregation meetings............... Pars. 18-19
Suicides and attempted or threatened suicides ................. Pars. 20-21
When lawsuits are threatened ................................................. Par. 22
Child custody ..................................................................... Pars. 23-25
Vehicle accidents ...................................................................... Par. 26
When a publisher has a personal legal question ....................... Par. 27
Nonneutral activity ................................................................. Pars. 28
Witnessing difficulties ....................................................... Pars. 29-35
Dear Brothers:
1. This letter replaces the letters dated July 1, 1989, November 20, 1996, March 24, 2000,
September 27, 2004, November 1, 2005, March 1, 2007, and December 12, 2008, to all bodies of
elders. Those letters should be removed from the congregation permanent file of policy letters and
be destroyed. No one should keep originals or copies of any of those letters.
2. Elders carry a heavy responsibility in these “critical times.” (2 Tim. 3:1) You must teach
and shepherd the flock, set a good example in field service, maintain good spiritual habits, and care
for your families’ spiritual, emotional, and physical needs. We very much appreciate and commend
you for your sincere efforts to care for each of these responsibilities.
3. Your task is made more challenging by the fact that we live in a complex society in which
people have become increasingly proud, greedy, and litigious. (2 Tim. 3:2-4) Further, in response to
growing social problems, governments at times enact laws that impose additional responsibilities on the
ministers of all religions. As Christians, we recognize Jehovah’s supreme authority and obey laws of the
land that do not conflict with God’s law. (Matt. 22:21; Rom. 13:1, 2) It is therefore important that as
elders you act wisely and with discernment and always follow the organization’s procedures and direc-
tions for handling congregation matters that involve legal issues.—Prov. 2:6-9.
4. Direction on handling child abuse matters can be found in separate correspondence.
However, we are now pleased to provide consolidated direction on handling other congregation
matters involving legal issues. Please give this information your prayerful consideration.
CONFIDENTIALITY
5. As overseers, you are often entrusted with knowledge of sensitive and confidential in-
formation. Elders must be careful never to divulge confidential information to persons who are
not authorized to receive it. There is “a time to keep quiet” and a time when “your words should
prove to be few.” (Eccl. 3:7; 5:2) Proverbs 10:19 warns: “In the abundance of words there does not
fail to be transgression, but the one keeping his lips in check is acting discreetly.” Unnecessary spir-

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itual and legal problems result when elders unwisely reveal matters that should be kept confidential.
You must therefore give special heed to the counsel: “Do not reveal the confidential talk of another.”
(Prov. 25:9) When elders disregard this counsel, trust in the elder body is threatened.—w96
3/15 p. 18 par. 12; w91 11/15 p. 23 par. 19; w87 9/1 pp. 12-15.
6. If an elder were to breach confidentiality, he could subject himself and the organization
to civil liability. In addition, an elder’s breach of confidentiality could result in a legal waiver of the
minister-communicant privilege or the attorney-client privilege. The minister-communicant privilege
generally prevents an elder, under specific circumstances, from having to disclose confidential
communications between the elder and a member of the congregation, and the attorney-client privilege
generally protects an elder from having to disclose confidential communications between the
elders and his attorney, including the Legal Department.
7. Wireless communication: It is also important to avoid inadvertently revealing confidential
information. While what is presented at our meetings and assemblies is generally not confidential,
on occasion meetings are held that are of a confidential nature. For example, the branch office
may sponsor schools for congregation elders and ministerial servants held at a Kingdom Hall.
On such occasions, cordless microphones should not be used.
8. When calling the branch office or when otherwise discussing confidential matters by
phone with persons entitled to such information, make sure that no one—including family members—
can overhear the conversation. For such conversations, it is permissible to use a cordless digital telephone.
Cordless analog telephones do not provide adequate privacy and should not be used. If you are
not certain whether you have a digital cordless telephone, it may be best to use a landline telephone.
Therefore, please make sure that your telephone is not a cordless analog telephone.
9. Most cellular telephone providers today have replaced older analog networks with more
secure digital networks. These signals are encrypted and considered to be secure from people seeking
to monitor conversations. Therefore, cellular telephones may be used when calling the branch
office or when discussing confidential matters with fellow elders.
10. When someone seeks confidential information: You should never reveal confidential
information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you
to do so. (Persons seeking confidential information may include an investigator, an attorney, a policeman,
a detective, other law enforcement officers or government officials, school personnel, parties
to a lawsuit, family members [whether they are Jehovah’s Witnesses or not], and even other elders or
other persons who may not be entitled to the information.) This applies to written materials and unwritten
knowledge possessed by the elders. It applies to records pertaining to a particular case and
general materials, such as letters from the organization, the Shepherding textbook, and the Organized
book. Even when secular authorities request confidential information, you are not obligated to
answer questions before consulting the branch office. (ks10 chap. 6 par. 19) You should then ask to
speak to the Legal Department. Oftentimes secular authorities request confidential information to
which they are not legally entitled. Thus, you could subject yourself and the organization to civil
liability if you reveal such confidential information.
11. If any unauthorized person seeks confidential information from you, simply state: “As a
minister I have a duty to keep certain matters confidential and must consult my attorney before answering
any questions.” There is no need to state that you will be contacting the Legal Department.
If the inquiring party presses for more information about a confidential matter or for the identity of
your attorney, do not be intimidated by threats and do not make any other statements. Simply ask
for the person’s name, telephone number, title, and the office he represents, and tell him that you

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will need to talk to your attorney before you respond to his request. Then, call the Legal Department
immediately for legal direction.
12. Subpoenas: A subpoena or subpoena duces tecum is an official written demand for oral
testimony or records. If you receive a subpoena, or if you hear that one may be issued seeking oral
or written information from someone concerning a congregation matter, call the Legal Department
immediately. If possible, have the subpoena that has been served on hand when you make the call,
and be prepared to fax a copy of it. Never turn over records, notes, or other documents or reveal
any confidential matter sought by subpoena without first receiving legal direction from the Legal
Department. Many documents and records in congregation files may be protected from disclosure
based on the minister-communicant privilege or the attorney-client privilege. If you receive a subpoena
intended for someone else, call the Legal Department immediately, even before you contact
the party for whom the subpoena was intended. If someone threatens to get a subpoena for congre-
gation-related records or testimony, call the Legal Department immediately, even if no actual subpoena
has yet been served.
CRIMES AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS
13. Handling reports of the abuse of elderly and disabled persons: At times, the law may
require ministers to report the abuse of elderly and disabled persons to the authorities. Elders should
therefore call the Legal Department for legal advice whenever they receive an allegation that an elderly
or disabled person has been abused. The types of adult abuse that are reportable to authorities differ
from state to state. Adult abuse can be physical, sexual, or emotional and can include neglect or
abandonment by a caretaker, self-neglect, forced labor, and financial or other types of exploitation.
Some states define “elderly” as anyone 60 years of age and older; others specify over 65. In some
states adult abuse reporting statutes apply to disabled persons who are 18 years old or older. In any
event, we want to do all we can to protect elderly and disabled persons from harm, in harmony with
the principles of God’s Word that direct us to have tender compassion for disadvantaged ones.—Ps.
72:13, 14.
14. Handling reports of other crimes: When the elders learn of alleged criminal activity
on the part of one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or someone associated with the congregation as the accused
or the victim, they should immediately call the Legal Department. In some cases, the elders
will form a judicial committee to handle alleged wrongdoing that may also constitute a violation of
criminal law (e.g., murder, rape, child abuse, fraud, theft, assault). Generally, the elders should not
delay the judicial committee process, but strict confidentiality must be maintained to avoid unnecessary
entanglement with secular authorities who may be conducting a criminal investigation of the
matter. For example, even the fact that a judicial committee has been formed should not be disclosed
to persons not entitled to know. (ks10 chap. 6 par. 18) In addition, the Legal Department
should be contacted for legal advice on how to protect confidentiality that is specific to the circumstances
of the case.
15. Search warrants: Elders should never give consent for anyone to search a Kingdom
Hall or any other place where confidential records are stored. Conscientious elders do all they reasonably
and peaceably can to preserve the confidentiality of the congregation in harmony with the
principle set out in Acts 5:29. However, law enforcement officers do not need your consent if they
have a search warrant. A search warrant is a court order authorizing the authorities to search certain
premises to locate evidence that may be used in a criminal prosecution.
16. If a law enforcement officer claims to have a search warrant, ask to see and read it. If
your request is denied, tell the officer that you do not consent to the search, but do not try to physically
stop him. Then, whether you have been allowed to read the search warrant or not, call the Le

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gal Department immediately for legal advice. If for some reason you are not allowed to call or you
are unable to contact the Legal Department at that moment, call as soon as possible. If the authorities
threaten to get a search warrant to look for congregation records or other confidential information,
call the Legal Department immediately, even if the warrant has not yet been issued.––ks10
chap. 6 par. 19.
17. Restraining orders or orders of protection: At times an individual will obtain a restraining
order or order of protection against someone else. The elders should not try to read, understand,
or enforce a restraining order between private parties, and neither should an elder try to provide
legal advice. If anyone asks the elders any questions about the restraining order, politely tell
the person that a restraining order is a personal legal matter that does not involve the congregation.
Thereafter, the elders should call the Legal Department immediately for direction.
DISRUPTIVE INDIVIDUALS AT CONGREGATION MEETINGS
18. It is best to ignore trivial or minor disturbances created by individuals at congregation
meetings. But if an individual persists in this course of action and is distracting others, two elders
should ask him to leave. If a second elder is not readily available, a mature ministerial servant can
be asked by an elder to join him. If the disruptive individual refuses to leave, you should inform him
that if he does not leave and continues to distract others, you will contact the police to have them
deal with him. If the individual does not cooperate, you should telephone the police. When the police
arrive, you may inform them that the individual is causing a disturbance and that his implied
invitation to attend the meeting has been revoked. You may also inform the police that you are willing
to file trespassing charges if it seems prudent and necessary under the circumstances. If you feel
the need for further direction, please contact the Service Department.
19. Elders wisely avoid being provoked into physically removing a disruptive person from
the premises, as the individual may be attempting to create a basis for legal action. Thus, the elders
should generally not try to forcibly remove a disruptive individual from the Kingdom Hall. If an
individual is violent from the outset, the police can be called immediately. There is no need to warn
him. In the event that a person is physically attacked, that person has the right to defend himself
from harm, and the elders should do what they reasonably can to help protect the individual. If
those who are being physically attacked are unable to flee from an assailant who appears determined
to cause injury, a Christian may try to ward off such attacks and even strike out in defense if
necessary. Of course, any such defensive action would be solely to protect oneself or others from
the attacker until the police arrive.—g91 7/8 p. 13; g87 11/22 p. 28.
SUICIDES AND ATTEMPTED OR THREATENED SUICIDES
20. At times, judicial committees may deal with someone who is so distraught that he attempts
or threatens to commit suicide. In such cases it may be best for the committee to suspend the
hearing and focus on helping the person to regain his balance. In any event, the elders should treat
the person with extreme thoughtfulness and kindness.—ks10 chap. 5 par. 4; chap. 6 par. 16.
21. In addition, elders should immediately call the Legal Department for legal direction
whenever they learn of an actual suicide, a threatened suicide, or an attempted suicide, since legally
this is also defined as self-murder or felo-de-se. Whether a family member or close friend with
knowledge of the suicide threat or suicide attempt reports it to authorities is a personal decision for
him to make. (Gal. 6:5) Elders should not discourage anyone from reporting the matter. Family
members who are aware of the suicide threat or attempt should be encouraged to take positive steps
to prevent the person from harming himself.

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WHEN LAWSUITS ARE THREATENED
22. Elders should call the Legal Department immediately when they learn of any threatened
legal action or actual lawsuit against the organization, congregation, or elders. If you are contacted
by an attorney or the media regarding a threatened or actual lawsuit before you have had an opportunity
to call the Legal Department, get the caller’s name, law office name, telephone numbers,
deadline, and cause of action, and let the caller know you will try to call them back before that
deadline. Then call the Legal Department immediately for assistance. No elder should make any
statement about the merits or validity of an actual or threatened lawsuit before calling the Legal De-
partment.—ks10 chap. 6 par. 18.
CHILD CUSTODY
23. A packet of legal material is available to assist publishers who are involved in lawsuits
over child custody and visitation matters in which our religion is under attack. The packet should be
requested by the body of elders only in a case in which it is evident that the publisher’s religious
beliefs will be at issue. For those facing secular issues on child custody or visitation, helpful information
can be found in the October 2009 Awake!, pages 21 and 27; the December 8, 1997, Awake!,
pages 3-12; the chart found in the April 22, 1991, Awake!, page 9; and the October 22, 1988,
Awake!, pages 2-14.
24. Elders should not make any promises to publishers about the organization’s involvement.
If a publisher requests the packet, please determine the following before calling the Legal
Department to request a packet:
x Is there litigation? In other words, has someone been served with papers to appear in
court? If litigation has not begun, the Legal Department will not send the packet. It is better
if the parties can settle the issue between themselves without going to court. Sending the
packet prematurely may give the impression that we are encouraging litigation.
x Is the litigation between the two biological parents? Sometimes the litigation involves
a parent and grandparent, two sets of grandparents, parent and step-parent, and so forth.
The packet is specifically crafted to address only the law that applies to biological parents.
It will not apply to any other situation and will not be sent in such cases. Nevertheless,
if it appears one party is actively using a religious issue against the other, you may
write to the Legal Department to explain the extenuating circumstances and inquire
whether any type of assistance would be available.
x Is the publisher requesting the packet one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in good standing?
Unbaptized publishers, advanced Bible students, or baptized persons on judicial restrictions
will be considered on a case-by-case basis. In the judgment of the elders,
would it shock or upset the congregation if they learned that the organization was helping
this person? If so, a packet will not be sent.
x Is the other party to the litigation not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? This includes those
who were never in the truth as well as disfellowshipped and disassociated persons. However,
the packet will not be sent if both parties are Witnesses, even if the other party is currently
inactive and not leading a Christian life. Nevertheless, if it appears one parent is actively using
a religious issue against the other, you may write to the Legal Department to explain the
extenuating circumstances and inquire whether any type of assistance would be available.
x Is there a religious issue? Does the non-Witness party allege that the Witness is not a
fit parent because she will not allow the children to celebrate holidays, get a college education,
receive a blood transfusion, participate in school sports, or associate with anyone
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the child or that Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cult? If disfellowshipped, does he allege that
he will be alienated from his children because of being “shunned?” If these or similar religious
issues are not present in the litigation, the packet is not appropriate and will not
be sent.
25. If the answer to all five questions is yes, a packet may be requested. Please be prepared
to provide the names of the parents and their attorneys; the number of children involved and their
respective ages; the spiritual condition of the Christian parent; a brief description of the facts, including
any apostate involvement; and the status of the litigation. If the answer to all five questions
is not yes, please explain to the publisher why a packet will not be requested at this time. If circumstances
change, this matter can be revisited. The Awake! issues listed previously may still be helpful
to an individual who does not qualify to receive a packet.
VEHICLE ACCIDENTS
26. When elders become aware that a publisher driving a vehicle in the ministry, traveling to
or from a meeting, or engaging in any other theocratic activity was involved in a vehicle accident
resulting in a death or serious injury, the elders should immediately call the Legal Department. If
you are contacted by anyone (attorney, other driver, passenger, investigator, or policeman) who requests
a statement, you should not discuss the accident or publishers involved. You should simply
ask for the caller’s name, telephone number, title, and the office he represents and tell him that you
will need to talk to your attorney before responding to any questions or inquiries. There is no need
to state that you will be contacting the Legal Department. You should then call the Legal Department
immediately for further direction on how to proceed.
WHEN A PUBLISHER HAS A PERSONAL LEGAL QUESTION
27. At times, publishers may approach elders with personal legal questions. Elders should
not give legal advice to publishers. Kindly tell the publisher that you are not qualified to give legal
advice and suggest that he consult his own legal counsel. Of course, if an elder happens to be a lawyer,
he may have clients who are Jehovah’s Witnesses. In such cases, it is the elder’s professional
qualifications, and not his position as an elder in the congregation, that enable him to provide legal
advice in his professional capacity to a fellow Witness. Any professional services that he renders
would not be sponsored by the congregation but would be a private arrangement between a legal
professional and his client. Additionally, elders should never direct or suggest that publishers call
or write the Legal Department to receive legal advice and direction regarding personal matters.
NONNEUTRAL ACTIVITY
28. When reporting to the branch office that an individual has disassociated himself by engaging
in nonneutral activity, the wording on the report should be in harmony with Scriptural guidelines.
Please use such expressions as “violated neutrality” or “took a nonneutral course.” Isaiah 2:4
and John 15:17-19 support these descriptions. Other expressions should not be used. The same caution
is to be exercised in all correspondence with the branch office or with other congregations.—Each elder
should make the following notation next to the last bullet in paragraph 3 of chapter 9 in the Shepherding
textbook: “See letter dated April 9, 2012, regarding procedures when legal issues are involved.”
WITNESSING DIFFICULTIES
29. Courtesy telephone notifications before working in the door-to-door ministry: Prior
to engaging in the public ministry, publishers (1) should not obtain a permit or register with police
or municipal officials; (2) should not physically go to any police station or government office; and
(3) should not provide the police or municipal officials, whether in person, by fax, or by mail, any

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papers, forms, lists, or other documents. Of course, if your congregation has received previous direction
from the Legal Department regarding courtesy telephone notifications, you should continue
to abide by that direction.
30. In the unlikely event that a publisher is stopped by the police while engaged in the door-
to-door ministry and is directed to obtain a permit, to provide prior notification in person or by telephone
to police or any other municipal official, or to respond to demands for any other information,
the publisher should not get involved in a discussion of his legal rights in an attempt to resolve the
matter. Rather, he should promptly and politely leave the territory if directed to do so. (Rom. 12:18)
The publisher should then inform the body of elders of any such incident. Thereafter, please immediately
contact the Legal Department for further direction rather than trying to resolve the matter on
your own.
31. “No Trespassing” signs at individual dwellings: As a general rule, householders have a
right to privacy and the right to prohibit anyone, including publishers, from entering their property by
posting a “No Trespassing” sign. Publishers need to be aware of the possible consequences of ignoring a
“No Trespassing” sign. If publishers call at a home or enter the grounds around a home where a “No
Trespassing” sign is posted, they may be subject to criminal prosecution and resulting monetary
sanctions and/or incarceration. Fines in some states are very high, and incarceration for any length
of time can be extremely traumatic. To be prosecuted for such conduct is a real possibility and a
serious matter. In addition, we are living in litigious times. Publishers ignoring a posted directive to
stay away may also face civil liability if sued by an irate householder. (Matt. 10:16) Publishers
should keep in mind that if they decide not to go to a particular door because of a posted “No Trespassing”
sign, other means of contacting the homeowner are available, such as telephone witnessing and letter
writing.—km 1/10 pp. 4-6; km 5/02 p. 7.
32. “No Trespassing” signs in communities and apartment complexes: It is important to
note that a “No Trespassing” sign posted on a home may be viewed differently from a “No Trespassing”
sign placed on a public street or at the entrance to a community or apartment complex.
With that in mind, we have no legal objection to publishers preaching in subdivisions and apartment
complexes in which they have not experienced difficulties with the authorities or the management,
even if there is a sign posted at the entrance.
33. If you experience difficulties with the management of any subdivision or apartment
complex, immediately comply with any demands to leave the territory and then write to the Legal
Department providing the name and address of the subdivision or apartment complex, the name of
the on-site manager (if applicable), a description of the difficulty, and the date(s) of the incident(s).
On the other hand, if a resident of a subdivision or apartment complex, rather than the management,
applies a posted sign to our ministry or insists that we cannot preach in the complex, you may wish
to mark the individual as a do-not-call and return to preach at another time.
34. “No Soliciting,” “No Peddling,” or “No Canvassing” signs: “No Trespassing” signs
are different from signs such as “No Soliciting,” “No Peddling,” or “No Canvassing.” If a municipality
endeavors to enforce the application of such signs to our preaching activity, please contact the
Legal Department. However, if a householder at any time informs a publisher that such a sign posted
on his property applies to our ministry, the publisher should assure the householder that future
calls at his home will cease.
35. “Do-not-calls”: If a householder insists that no further visits be made by Jehovah’s
Witnesses, the home should be listed in a special telephone territory for the elders to call annually to

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determine if there has been any change in the occupant’s attitude toward our ministry. Such direction
would apply whether or not the householder has posted a sign indicating his wishes.
36. Elders bear a heavy responsibility in ministering to the needs of the Christian congregation
while observing confidentiality and complying with Caesar’s laws. (Rom. 13:1-4) We trust that the
information in this letter will help you carry out this responsibility. Please be assured of our love and
prayers, and may Jehovah continue to bless you as you shepherd his flock.—1 Pet. 5:1-3.
Your brothers,
cc: Traveling overseers
PS to secretary:
This letter should be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters. You may
wish to update the congregation copy of Index to Letters for Bodies of Elders (S-22) at this time as
well.


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Не такое секретное, но тоже письмо Общество Нелюбителей Порнографии,
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Ну очень хочется, плизззззззззззз

Вначале было сначала открыть в ПДФ , затем - Файл - сохранить как текстовый документ - и изголяться в переводе с файла блокнотом хоть на суахили ...


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Как в переводчик то отправить, он копировать в PDF не хочет, помогите как это дело прочитать?
Ну очень хочется, плизззззззззззз

может у тебя Ридер старый? У меня 10.2 копируется в раз.... В старых версиях копирование не шло.

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Как в переводчик то отправить, он копировать в PDF не хочет, помогите как это дело прочитать?
Ну очень хочется, плизззззззззззз

может у тебя Ридер старый? У меня 10.2 копируется в раз.... В старых версиях копирование не шло.

УРА! ВСЕ ПОЛУЧИЛОСЬ! ВСЕМ СПАСИБО!
После прочтения не покидает мысль или вернее вопрос: вот читают стары такие указания неужели после этого у них ничего не щелкает? Ну может если не прозрение, то хотя бы просто противно на душе не становится? :puppy:
Как то не хочется верить, что они совсем лицемеры.....................

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Как то не хочется верить, что они совсем лицемеры.....................

Нет, не все лицемеры!

В Хайфе случай был... В одном собрании ВСЕ стары (как я слышала) кроме одного -
- в "аццтупнеги" подались! Вот это - КЛАСС! Пример стаду!!!!!!!! :multi:

Так что Израиль "рулит"! )))

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У большинства ничего не щелкает- там такой монотонный гул в голове,
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Как в переводчик то отправить, он копировать в PDF не хочет, помогите как это дело прочитать?
Ну очень хочется, плизззззззззззз

может у тебя Ридер старый? У меня 10.2 копируется в раз.... В старых версиях копирование не шло.

УРА! ВСЕ ПОЛУЧИЛОСЬ! ВСЕМ СПАСИБО!
После прочтения не покидает мысль или вернее вопрос: вот читают стары такие указания неужели после этого у них ничего не щелкает? Ну может если не прозрение, то хотя бы просто противно на душе не становится? :puppy:
Как то не хочется верить, что они совсем лицемеры.....................
они святоверующие в раба и по бревну в каждом глазе,по этому так, а брёвна они свои берегут чтоб в труху не рассыпались и не виден стал свет.

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