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Dears , the following Elijah's words fit to the present situation :

21. " Elijah went before the people and said, "How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him."
But the people said nothing. " 1 Kings 18.

For a long time God's people worshipped wood-idols .
What is a wood idol ?

8. "They are all senseless and foolish;
they are taught by worthless wooden idols. "

8. "They are both stupid and foolish;
the instruction of idols is but wood! " Jeremiah 10:8.

Any human interpretation (or according to human's will or science) of God's word is a wooden idol !

So , anyone worshiping God according to any human interpretation of God's word , he is in fact a worshiper of wooden idol , even calling himself an "Jehovah Witness" or brother of Christ !

But we are teached by Jesus to worship the Father "in spirit and truth" !
What does it means ?
23. But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.
24. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:23,24.

To worship God in spirit , it means to have the understanding of His word , in spirit .
So , what does it means undertanding in spirit ?
If "God is spirit" , understanding "in spirit" means understanding according to His will !

Jesus told us :
12. "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."
John 16:12,13.

What is the truth ? Jesus answers :
17. "Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth . John 17:17.

So , the spiritual understanding is that based upon all God's word , from Genesis to Rev. , and not upon chronology , piramidology , or other human science .

Regarding Daniel's prophecies , God sent an angel to Daniel to say him His will concerning time and the frame of His prophecies' fullfilment :

14 "And I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people at the end of the days: for the vision is yet for [many] days. "
Daniel 10:14.

Now , let us find what is the mark of the beast according to God's will !
Here it follows a quote from the article "The Beast" - the Tool of Punishment " written by an anointed brother of Christ , named Sas Gavril :
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"As it was previously mentioned, the new leadership that took control of the society in 1945 foremost of whom Knorr edited the book “The Translation of the New World”, which distorted a lot of information in God's word, despite the warning that the Holy Scriptures gave with regard to this.

Thus, it was proven that these people have left Jehovah – “the spring of the living water”. And here is what Jehovah said about these individuals: “Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust because they have forsaken the Lord, the spring of the living water” (Jeremiah 17: 13b)

So, in spite of their statements and their claims of being part of the heaven, they have become dust. This is one of the horns, like a lamb's horn. The other horn is exactly the part which was assigned authority and which is shown as being, hopefully, earthly. These horns are like lamb's horns, meaning that they come in the Name of God's Lamb. But next, we are shown that the beast having this appearance was speaking like a dragon. What does this mean? Let us think about it a little. How does a dragon speak? How did it speak in the Garden of Eden when it misled the original couple? Hasn't it spoken by altering God's words?

The same type of speech was imposed on the beast also for it could deceive the people of the world. The picture of “the original beast” is the tool of deceivement, that is the same book we were talking about – “The Translation of the New World ” which the beast indicates and submits to all as being the basic tool in the discovery of truth. Such a serious error! And precisely they who talk about other religions, sects or denominations do this kind of thing when they themselves do it.

All those who consider this picture as being what it claims to be are worshipers of “the beast and his image” (Revelation 14: 9) On the other hand, those who do not worship the beast and its image are “killed”, that is they are denied and banished from within this group of so-called witnesses and, thus “they don't buy and don't sell the rich spiritual asset” given by the <<slave>>! Only those who worship the beast and its image have the sign of the beast!

Concerning the reckoning of the beast's number, 666 we have to understand that time has come for Jehovah to give the necessary wisdom and knowledge to His messenger in order to be able to reckon the number of the beast. The expression “for he is a number of man” helps us understand that it's something concerning the things that are guided by people within the frame of an organized system, but which does not correspond to God's requirements.

During this debate we have noticed that this beast is nothing else but the class of the opponents who settled in the temple as it was prophesied and thus, in relation with this organized system it is indicated to reckon the number of the beast.

So, let us see how we can find this number. At page 109 of the book “Jehovah's witnesses, proclaimers of God's Kingdom”, in the second paragraph the following appear: “Starting with 1 st January 1976 all the activities of the Watch Tower Society and of all the congregations of Jehovah's witnesses in the entire world have entered under the supervision of six administrative committees of the government corps. (And here we have the first six) Then, we read on: “In accordance with this measure, on 1 st February 1976 a similar modification took place in every branch of the society. (And this is the second six) Then, going down to the third step – the congregation we observe that there is a committee, which handles all the problems of the congregation. This committee is formed out of six members (and here is the third six) with the following functions and responsabilities: 1 – president; 2 – secretary; 3 – accountant; 4 – the supervisor of the minister school; 5 – the supervisor of the ministry service; 6 – the person who is in charge of the literature department. All these together represent the number 666.

Under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of Jehovah there will be more debates in the future concerning the beast or as the prophet Daniel says “the wild animal”. And all these happen because we approach very rapidly to the moment of the liberation of Jehovah's saints whom the beast defeated. With the true judgment that follows this beast will be “taken the domination and completely destroyed forever”.

“But the court will sit and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom and all rulers will worship and obey him.” (Daniel 7: 26b, 27)

So now “a breath of life from God” will enter inside these saints.(Revelation 11: 11) Of course, this thing will bring along not only amazement (2 Thessalonians 1: 10) but also a severe earthquake (Revelation 11: 13)
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For further information you may see the entire article on site :

http://www.geocities.com/sas_gavril

Also see the following sites :

http://www.grupcaleasfanta.ro

http://matthewsgeneration.blogspot.com/ ... umber.html


Greetings from Jehovah's Word to all those worshipping Him "with spirit and with truth" :

Jeremiah 51:9 Zeccariah 2:7 ; 8:1-8 Micah 2:12,13 ; 4:6,7 Amos 3:7
Hosea 4:6 ; 6:1-3,6 ; 14:1-9 2John 1:9 Rev.10:5-7,11 ; 14:3 ; 15:2,3 ; 22:10-15 !


As apostle Paul said , " but let God be true, and every man false; according as it is written, So that thou shouldest be justified in thy words, and shouldest overcome when thou art in judgment. "
Romans 3:4.

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Dear rus virgil,

What country are you from?
Do you speak Russian?

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My friend , I can't speak it ! I beg your pardon ! I am romanian.

But I think the language of truth is only one !

Anyway , I apreciate your signature :Proverbs 14:5 ! RIGHT !


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Dear rus virgil,

Your post is interesting but time is necessary to understand it.
If it is possible tell a little please who is brother Sas Gavril.
Is he JW or exJW?

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Dear brother,
Bro. Sas obeyed God's command in Zechariah 2:7.
In summer of 2001 he came out of "organisation".
I believe God's word , and I help him: Matt.10:40-42.
He speaks only romanian.
Jehovah uses him to fulfill Micah 2:12,13.
Here is the letter I send this year :
http://www.jwforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=1068

Jehovah planted a wineyard (starting with 1872 )! But now, the result is this: Isaiah 5:3-7 !
His wineyard became a desert , a dry and wasted land !
But here , in the middle of this "desert" Jehovah is preparing now a "WAY" ,
named " THE HOLY WAY " ! see ISAIAH 35:8 .

HE send some of His servants to do the work of preparing that way !
All people who want "water" may come to take water : Isaiah 55:1-3.

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Dear brother,
Bro. Sas obeyed God's command in Zechariah 2:7.
In summer of 2001 he came out of "organisation".
I believe God's word , and I help him: Matt.10:40-42.
He speaks only romanian.
Jehovah uses him to fulfill Micah 2:12,13.
Here is the letter I send this year :
http://www.jwforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=1068

Jehovah planted a wineyard (starting with 1872 )! But now, the result is this: Isaiah 5:3-7 !
His wineyard became a desert , a dry and wasted land !
But here , in the middle of this "desert" Jehovah is preparing now a "WAY" ,
named " THE HOLY WAY " ! see ISAIAH 35:8 .

HE send some of His servants to do the work of preparing that way !
All people who want "water" may come to take water : Isaiah 55:1-3.

rus virgil


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But I think the language of truth is only one !


The English one? Yeah? :mrgreen: Sir Russel would be delighted!

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So , the spiritual understanding is that based upon all God's word , from Genesis to Rev. , and not upon chronology , piramidology , or other human science .


Но в тоже время опять пошли таинственные объяснения цифр... К пирамидологии (так понимать piramidology?) не мешало бы добавить еще и нумерологию.


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Читается как "Башня"- все те же формулировки и стиль убеждения. Разница только в персонажах.


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brother rus virgil, http://translate.google.com/ will translate ours speech.

А теперь по-нашенски. Я так понял, что сие суть толкование пророчества из откровения по поводу организации СИ + по поводу нашего настоящего, типа пути в пустыне ещё готовятся и некоторые к сему причастны.

Сомнительно конешна, по поводу сичла шесть шесть шесть и руководства из 6 человек. Сомнительно взят год 1976(???).

Румунии привет!

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=1


http://www.youtube.com/user/RoarofTigers


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Friends,
it is good to see , there are also others who wake up and open their eyes to the light !

Read this post :

http://h2o.aimoo.com/International-Open ... 18638.html


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